A Horse Named Doc
March 11, 2011 § 19 Comments
So, I have to say this story really gets my blood boiling.
Here’s the quick version:
A girl gets a horse and names it Doc. The girl, code named cherrybabe (real name ERIN NEWGARD from Maple Valley, Washington), is a young girl, and the horse is a young/old/senior OTTB gelding who while low on the totem pole with the other horses, tries to show his dominance with the girl. She’s afraid of him and sends him off to an inexperienced trainer girl (code named karebear123, who is actually “K and L Training” or Kari Phinney Legros from Enumclaw, WA who is a whopping 26 years old – so, you know, SO much more mature than her 17 year old client) who has him at a boarders. The BO has an issue with karebear123 so karebear123 moves HER horse(s) to another barn and cherrybabe gets stuck taking her horse back home. Of course, the horse has been with the trainer for six months, so changing Docs home, treatment, herd, etc. is probably going to play a role here.
Anyway, cherrybabe has the horse with her at home now, and is still afraid of it, so decides to “sell” the horse.
This is her original description (with the heading “Doc TB/ cross ~8 years old 16.3 for sale or lease“:
hello ladies and gents.,
Doc is up for sale or lease. He is a beautiful chestnut that we got about three and a half years ago. He has a trot to die for and a sweet wanting to please personality.
He is in training with karebear and has 90 plus days professional training under his belt. he’s doing very well. and is so different from when he first went to training. He shows great potential in dressage and flat huntseat.
He is very smart and needs to think, so doing something mindless just doesn’t work…
He does great at shows too. I took him into halter and showmanship at the SAFE show two years ago and he was great. completely calm, and got four out of a class of over twenty and got kicked too in the class.
Doesn’t sound too bad, huh?
Lets see, did she tell us how old the horse is? Yes, he’s eight years old (not). Did she talk about any health issues? No. Did she indicate she was afraid of the horse, or that he showed any signs of aggression towards her? No.
AND, apparently during the time she was trying to sell the horse, she was also looking to buy or lease another horse.
Did I mention this is all documented on a horse board that is set up essentially to SAVE horses from the auction houses that are at risk to go to slaughter? And that apparently cherrybabe has been a member there for quite some time? No? Oh, sorry… because that information plays directly into what happens next.
Suddenly, karebare123 (the “trainer”) weighs in with her “assessment” of the horse.
With regular workout sessions he will be just fine. He has it in his head that things have to be set in a pattern. He like s a routine and anytime you give him multiple days off in a row. He will have an episode of like we start back at the beginning. Basically he has the mind of a two year old in an 8 year olds body. He is willing but incredibly stubborn. Before this horse left the old barn where I was training at. He was walking, trotting, and starting to canter under saddle. He came to me as a horse that was dangerous and would strike and charge you when given the chance. He was taught this through fear and has been allowed to get away with it. He does bathe, clipping he is unsure but will do it with patience, hauling he is great once in the trailer. He will try to test you to see if you know what you are doing, he has never offered to kick or bite but he has and will rear in the long lines on those days that its like starting over or when learning a new thing. He is a challange but he will be absolutely the best horse ever once gotton through. I have seen it and been there. When he came back, we went back to square one in review and groundwork sessions. He is a very good boy and wants to please but he was abused in his past from what I have been told. It takes him about three months to settle in a new place and then you see a ton of results. Doc would have stayed with me permanatly and would have been way farther by now had he stayed and not gone home. He reverted back to his old self. He lunges now and loves daily attention. Honestly I would bond with him and do some groundwork sessions before you ride him. Only to create that bond that this horse really needs. He relies on that one on one attention.
He is about 16 hands not 16.3. He came to me on the thinner side and we have been pooring the feed to him, He worms as well but you have to put a lead rope around his muzzle and do it in a stall and he is fine. He used to strike so thats an improvement.
he long lines with his head bitted and will walk, trot, and canter both directions. I have ridden him bareback, and with a western saddle both posting and sitting at the trot and he is fine. This was two months ago mind you. so he will need a refresher. We have had our share of wet t shirt days, but then there have been the days where I have seen that all important leap forward in progress.
He has never tried to hurt me but I have taken this whole process very slow as to ensure that he truely understands what I have asked of him. He is a completely different horse because of it.
He is sound and can be worked with his airway issue. I have advised that a vet check it out and rate it on their scale. It could be as simple as a nasal blockage or it could be an actual broken wind issue. I find it hard to believe that his wind is completely broken when he can and will canter and gallop when the pressure is applied in learning a new thing. He has been seen by a chiropractor, and needs his teeth floated.
Please let me know if there is anything else that I may be of help to you on. This horse is a completely different horse than when he first came to me and he still has his spirit. He really needs someone that will help him have a job.
So, what I read here is that (a) he’s immature (b) he’s eight years old… and read on…
Karebear123 says “he has the mind of a two year old in an 8 year olds body” suggesting the horse is eight years old….
“came to me as a horse that was dangerous and would strike and charge you when given the chance”
“he has and will rear in the long lines”
“He is a challange (sic)”
“reverted back to his old self”
“He is about 16 hands not 16.3. He came to me on the thinner side and we have been pooring the feed to him, He worms as well but you have to put a lead rope around his muzzle and do it in a stall and he is fine. He used to strike so thats an improvement.” (OMG, I have to say, ok, they don’t know how to measure a horses’ height, they weren’t feeding him enough, he is difficult to deworm, and he used to strike… WTF? So how does that factor into the statement “reverted back to his old self”?? He’s now kicking, and has grown to 16.3 hands??)
And now we’re learning he has an “airway issue”?? And of course his teeth haven’t been taken care of either.
There is debate as to the actual age of the horse, he’s 8 years old, he’s 17 years old, he’s in his twenties…
Yet, no one seems to call cherrybabe out of her complete neglect of the horse… ok, I can understand to a degree, considering what happened next.
Yep, You Guessed it… the Kill Pen
Since cherrybabe couldn’t sell the horse in the few weeks she gave an effort, she sent him to auction. Without a reserve. AND the horse was lame. She says it was fine when she sent it off, but apparently the auctioneer had to stop and ask the rider to dismount as the horse could barely walk! Yeah… ok.
Someone assessed him in the kill pen, to try to get him saved… on the same fucking board the idiot girl cherrybabe is a member of… can you wrap your head around that? Cherrybabe is a member of a board that saves horses from the kill pen, yet she sent her horse to auction… ??? That’s a total WTF moment if you ask me.
Here is the assessment:
The worst leg is his right hind. His suspensory ligament is large and hard, with soft swelling as well. It did not seem warm but was definitely sore to the touch and he did not want to put weight on that leg. He did allow me to prod it and didn’t do anything worse than pull it away from me.
His left hind has a large scar on the canon bone, but it is old and not tender. I wouldn’t expect that to give him any trouble.
His left front has calcification on the inside of the canon bone, most likely from a splint injury in the past. They usually do not cause problems as long as the calcification doesn’t interfere with the tendon, but I can’t guarantee that.
Hmmm, that is not sounding like a completely sound horse, approximately 8 years old… Oh, and he’s a cribber too. Nice of cherrybabe to put that in her ad.
You know, I can’t even go on with this post. Suffice it to say the little brat cherrybabe chucked her horse aside like so much garbage while knowing full well what sending him to auction with no reserve meant. She’s now pouting that people are being “mean” to her, and that she tried everything… all the while there is an uproar on said board requesting cherrybabe be banned permanently from the board. I agree. She should be banned. She should also be banned from owning a horse or any other animal, or from even being AROUND animals, for the next five years!
Bottom line here, is that a bunch of people had to donate money so this horse could be rescued from the KILL PEN and he’s going into foster for a while. Of course, that means cherrybabe is completely off the hook, and hasn’t learned a single fucking thing. That was her plan all along.
It looks as though both cherrybabe and karebear123 have been banned from the aforementioned board. It’s about TIME. Not only were they both deserving of being banned just for the fact the horse ended up in the kill pen… cherrybabe LIED about that horse from the get-go. Buh bye asswipes.
Sadly, it has been noted that Doc is being kept outside. He’s underweight and it’s fairly chilly where he is… not to mention he looks WET. Everyone knows if a horse isn’t in proper weight, they start to shiver in the chill, which burns off even more weight fast. Thankfully he’s being picked up within the next day or two. By nice people. Adults. Who care.
You know, Erin and Kari… you two brats ought to grow up, and really take a good hard look at what you’ve done – AND how other people had to bail you out.
I’d like to throttle you BOTH. Fuck.