Cheryl Foster or Churney (whatever) Has been Begging for Money – Forever
July 29, 2011 § 109 Comments
Making the rounds on the Internet, between Facebook, blogs and forums, is the story of a woman in Schomberg Ontario who has had her 23 SE Arabians seized under the Innkeepers Act. She is $30,000 in debt to the woman she leased the facility from, and her name is Cheryl. When first approached, Cheryl lied and said she was only the “caretaker”. It wasn’t until later that she admitted to being the owner.
Desperate for Money
As far back as over a year ago Cheryl was begging for money on Twitter, making it sound like she was trying to help someone else (as always, click on the photo to see it enlarged, click your “back” button to return to this page).
Please Send Money
Now, a year later, most of those same horses are a body score of less than three, one is very old and riddled with cancer – but they’re headed off to auction under the Innkeepers Act. I find it interesting that she’s in debt $30,000 but a year ago was begging for 50k…
According to one person, this owner was cash-strapped two years ago in Meaford, ON, and was unwilling to let any of the horses go for less than $10,000 – even though the horses were already thin from lack of food at that time.
A Little History
Cheryl married for the second time, a man named Bill. They lived on ten acres near Kenora, Ontario. In October of 1991, they received one of her mothers horses named Pride Frasha. Cheryl’s mother bred Arabians under the name Pride Arabians for years.
According to my research, Cheryl and Bill moved to Meaford sometime in 2006. They went by the name “Fireside Manor Arabians”.
Considering she started out a 24 hour drive away in Kenora and seemed to own 10 acres there – where they were building barns and all sorts of stuff… I’m surprised she left there to end up leasing farms.
With the addition of this first horse, Pride Frasha, they set out on a journey that brought them here… to losing all their horses to seizure and auction.
Considering they’ve been struggling for what sounds like several years at least, you would think they would have let some of their horses go for less than they were asking – to enable themselves to keep afloat and at least feed the horses they had left. But no, breeders would never do that!
Instead, after having their first foal in the spring of 2000, within 10 years they’ve grown to 23 horses. Amazingly, of their original breeding stock, from what I can tell approximately 7-10 horses, every single one of them is on the seizure list. That means that at minimum they have thirteen young horses they’ve been unable to sell.
Fireside Manor Arabians
One of her ads:
(The website is no longer available.)
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I especially love it when people have spelling mistakes in advertisements.
SE Black Arabians International Group LLC
At some point, they started advertising as SE Black Arabians International Group LLC. I don’t know whether this group is still intact, or what is going on “company”-wise. But I do know that all the horses that are registered, are registered to Cheryl. The horses that are pending registration (which seems to be anything more than her breeding stock) are pending to Cheryl.
One of the SE Black Arabians International Group LLC ads:
We are breeders of Black SE Arabians with approx 26 in total.
We are undercontruction and still trying to find funding to get this equine faucilty completed.
We have 7 stallions for breeding.
We collect, ship, guarantine with one barn for 30 horses. Guarantine barn only. Once completed we will have over 100,000 sq. ft of building approx 140 box stalls plus a custom home.
his will be a equine estate for everyone to enjoy. We are lso doing a pool for the horses for exercise which is great for conditioning.
Have been with horses for 44 years now. We are also at this time looking for another 3 trainers as our horses are sweepstakes nominated and can win very large amounts in the ring
We are regularly Selling: es arabian horses, shipped semen, import, export, sales, artificial insemeation, frozen semen, quarantine.
We are regularly Buying: buying new breedingfor our programs, selling stock all over the world, se arbians are very rare less than 1% in the whole world.
I’m not sure when this started, as there are no dates unfortunately.
The Horses
Please Note: These photos are ten years old, but at least you can see what they would have looked like, if taken proper care of.
Cary
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Cher Ann
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Elegance
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Frasha
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Hamida
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Kaleem
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Maysa
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Chou
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Regal
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Saigahh
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Shaheen
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Now
I’m not sure which horse this is, but you can probably assume that most of the horses are in this sort of shape – and this pisses me off.
Poor Baby
I’m going to assume that the owner of the property (not the horses) is not onsite. If anyone knows differently, let me know because if they were watching this mess unfold and waited until the horses were this emaciated before doing anything… I need to feature them as well. I will say that the property owner seems to be helping out – posting auction notices, etc. everywhere.
Auction
The auction is as follows:
Claremont Horse Auction.
Date and inspection to be set by
Bill Simmons Auctioneer
905-640-7086
Auction Update
Auction will be held at:
August 4, 2011
16700 concession 10
Schomberg, Ontario
(driveway to barn and arena off the 19th side rd)
UPDATE
These photos just recently came to my attention.
The first horse (white) is 33 years old and has cancer… but in my opinion should have been put down LONG before she reached this stage. WTF are people thinking?
Frasha Now
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Frasha Now
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And a photo of one of the stallions. While several of the horses are actually in good weight… why is it that several are not?
A Stallion
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The Same Stallion
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I can only hazard a guess that the stallions were confined in smaller areas away from the mares. For example, the mares were kept on pasture, so may have had more to eat, but the stallions were penned and since there was no money to buy food… there was no food for the stallions.
Hmmm… here’s a photo of another stallion… I’m thinking I might be correct.
Another Stallion
NotABreed 
Some people just plain suck!
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Everyone there with the horses that contributed to this needs to be shot.
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photos of the Meaford property
Click to access 265608siderd25.pdf
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That’s not the one Cheryl owned though… I think she just leased that one too. Same with the one where she is now…
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this is the facility that they built in Meaford; note it is available under power of sale. Another little disgusting fact about this whole story, at the end of their Meaford stay, someone gave them a substantial conditional loan for interest in the horses. Cheryl headed out and spent a pile of money on new clothing and accessories for herself…not a drop went into feed for the horses :-( With the remainder of the loan they put a down payment on a facility north of Barrie and they moved in with their horses. They were forced to leave that facility when, the property owners realized that they have no money (after upgrading the house to Cheryl’s expectations, $100K of renovations). After this they moved to the most resent place where the horses are being auctioned.
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Thank you for your first-hand knowledge. It certainly adds to the understanding of how they got to this place…
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and yes i owned it
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Seriously? I’m going to believe that?
If you owned it, how did the owner seize your horses under the Innkeepers Act?
Je-ZUS you must think I’m stupid.
Even if it was a “rent-to-own” situation, the property owner could not seize your horses. The only way he can seize is that you were RENTING from him, and BOARDING your horses there.
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sorry guys more bull shit i wonder whom did this add
maybe the same whom wants the money
all vet checked and many in the barn lies and more lies wonderful interent
At least if you are going to do it get it straight truth
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Welcome Cheryl… Thanks for your derisive comment.
And by the way, this isn’t an “add” or even an ad (as in advertisement). This is a blog. Written by me. For the purposes of showing the truth. About people like you. What did you think? Frank started this blog a year ago just waiting for the moment he could write a bunch of bullshit about you? That would be a little psycho don’t you think?
If you have something other than unintelligible rhetoric to spout, feel free. Something like… maybe your version of the truth? That might be a place to start.
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Making the rounds on the Internet, between Facebook, blogs and forums, is the story of a woman in Schomberg Ontario who has had her 23 SE Arabians seized under the Innkeepers Act. She is $30,000 in debt to the woman she leased the facility from, and her name is Cheryl. When first approached, Cheryl lied and said she was only the “caretaker”. It wasn’t until later that she admitted to being the owner
once a lier always a lier whom did this right up
frasha with cancere has had vet check and is just fine she still has balls runs plays and eats she is in no pain
I hope all of you run into a fraudulent mortgage would be good for all
Horses have not been neglected we have a resent vet check for all I no whom started this and keep going your lawyers will not be able to help you
For the last time it is not 23 it is 22 there were 23 stalls in the barn
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So, what you’re saying is that I got it wrong that there are only 22 horses? That’s it? That’s your defense? So, because I mistakenly reported (off by one I might add) the number of horses, that means the rest of the article is completely fabricated, right?
Now there’s a great defense.
And I beg to differ regarding Frasha. She is NOT “just fine”. She is skin and bones, and is quite obviously not being fed properly for her condition. Please, if you hear only ONE thing from all this, PLEASE put that horse to sleep. It’s the kind and humane thing to do. And if your vet said she is fine and in no pain, YOU NEED A NEW VET.
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Making the rounds on the Internet, between Facebook, blogs and forums, is the story of a woman in Schomberg Ontario who has had her 23 SE Arabians seized under the Innkeepers Act. She is $30,000 in debt to the woman she leased the facility from, and her name is Cheryl. When first approached, Cheryl lied and said she was only the “caretaker”. It wasn’t until later that she admitted to being the owner
once a lier always a lier whom did this right up
frasha with cancere has had vet check and is just fine she still has balls runs plays and eats she is in no pain
I hope all of you run into a fraudulent mortgage would be good for all
Horses have not been neglected we have a resent vet check for all I no whom started this and keep going your lawyers will not be able to help you
For the last time it is not 23 it is 22 there were 23 stalls in the barn
Also there is three owners not one two lein ho
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Oh, I missed something here…
You’re blaming all your woes on a “fraudulent mortgage”?
When was this mortgage?
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hm makes me wonder where all the other horses are and what they look like
Why only three and two studs one sick mare hey come people where are the rest 3.5 in body weight and up Some one really wants everyone to show to get their profits up
this stallion suffered baterial infection from his stall be flooded with water for two months at the leased faucility he almost died Ask all the other tentants on flooding
The hay man has proved they were all fed 130 bales per week of alfalpha
Looks like he has not been fed since he seized them
Ask this ass where all the others are and their pictures funny
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As I stated in my post, the rest seem to be in good weight, but I believe they were mostly kept on pasture. The red stallion is severely emaciated, as is the other stallion I’ve seen (although not quite as bad).
What date were the horses seized?
Why do you seem to have two excuses for everything? The stallion suffered a bacterial infection so he’s underweight. But it also doesn’t look like Frank fed them since they were seized…
Now, don’t get me wrong, I have some issues / doubts about some of the motives Frank has. And if he seized the horses then he should be feeding them. I also think Frank is a businessman, and he realizes he’ll get more money for healthy weight horses than emaciated horses – no matter what the bloodlines… So it’s just common sense on my side saying he probably WAS feeding the horses. I also know that volunteers have been there feeding.
If Frank seized those horses and didn’t feed them, then Frank needs to be prosecuted.
BUT, all that being said, I suspect those horses, at least the stallions and Frasha, were emaciated when he seized them.
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By the way, why would you keep a stallion in a stall for two months with it being flooded. Whether or not repairs, etc., were being made, it is ultimately you, as the owner, who is responsible for the health of that horse. You should have moved him, or done SOMETHING.
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Maybe Cheryl’s problems all stem from being illiterate.
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I know, right!?!?!?
I’m sitting here holding back from asking if English is her second language!!
I’m HOPING she’s French, and English is her second language… But I’ve seen countless French folks who write better English than that… Unfortunately, I don’t think Churney OR Foster are French last names. ;)
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Maybe it’s from all those rats who’ve taken up residency in her hair.
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I have no words TG.
I bow down.
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what is your name bullshit You no whom I am would like to no whom you are and whom is frank
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My name is John. Happy?
And Frank Psaila is the owner of the property, who has seized your horses. How in hell don’t you know who I’m talking about???
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John, I think you’re going to have to put things in pictures for Cheryl. Something tells me she doesn’t understand a bunch of words strung together.
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I’m seeing that TG.
Maybe I’m using words that are too big? Or spelling them correctly too often?
Maybe this will work:
Me John. I am whom wrote blog.
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The over use of “whom” (not to mention using it incorrectly) is probably a ruse to hide her real intelligence level. “Whom” is such a big girl’s word.
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I know. I picked up on the whole “whom” thing immediately. Not once does she actually use the word “who”, which more often than not is actually correct.
PS: LOVE the comb comment.
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goat you got that one right and you stink BAD I think I can read that
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i also see you have facts wrong better do your home work I have other things to do besides your bull shit
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So Frank Psaila is not the owner of the property? He is not the one you are currently in debt to for 30k? I’m wrong on that too am I?
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Kings Ransom?
Sound familiar?
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Here’s his website to refresh your memory…
http://kingsransomstable.webs.com/
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face up whom are you hiding you got no balls honey keep going
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I am not hiding anyone. Not Frank. Not you. Certainly no one is hiding behind me.
Ask any of the other commenters here, I don’t pull punches, and I don’t speak for anyone but myself.
Just take five minutes and read any of the other posts in this blog. You obviously have no idea who I am or what I’m about if you can pretend to think I’d be doing anything for anyone else.
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And by the way, I’m actually researching Frank too. He had those horses on his property, and from what I understand lives just on the hill there overlooking the barn and paddocks. I also understand he often “visits” the barn, so even your starving stallions locked in the barn wouldn’t go unnoticed by him. So he is also to blame if that information that I received is true. And I will write about it when I’ve done some more research.
So, that being said, whom am I protecting now honey?
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Edited to add “also”.
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Face up, Cheryl. NotABreed exposed you for the loser you are.
Why did you starve those horses, Cheryl? It doesn’t look like you’ve missed a meal. Did you lose sleep at night knowing those horses were wasting away to nothing? Of course not, You were too busy blowing through money on yourself. You forgot to purchase one thing, honey…a fucking comb.
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stuff the comb up your ass you will enjoy it
I have all docs to prove you wrong fuck face
It is so easy for you to say lies in hiding
You can function with out libility i have my name you still have not come up to the plate with yours fuck face
Also on something like this who cares whom can spell Fix the history ass hole
ALSO WHERE DO YOU PUT 22 HORSES WHEN THE BARN IS FLOODED AND NO LANDLORD TO FIX
ASK OTHER TENANTS YOU FUCKING ASS
THIS BLOG WAS STARTRED JULY 2011 I SEE YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME BUT THIS
THE LATEST PICTURES I NO WHOM TOOK THEM SO I AM SURE WHOM YOU ARE
THERE HAS BEEN MANY TENANTS THERE USE YOUR BIG MOUTH AND FIND OUT
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1) My rules here are no direct attacks. This is your one warning.
2) I’m not lying.
3) I care who can spell. Did you graduate high school? Because if you did, you should be able to spell even the simplest of words, which seem to elude your grasp. If you did graduate I think you should sue the school and the government, since they failed you miserably. Please note, when you are typing, the wavy red line under the words don’t mean “great try” or anything like that… they mean the word is SPELLED WRONG.
4) There are pastures, are there not? Horses can stand a little rain. Also, if the barn was flooded for TWO MONTHS, I’m sure you could have found another farm to rent somewhere (they wouldn’t have known your inability to pay rent until after you moved in I’m sure). And the BOTTOM LINE is that the health of those horses is YOUR responsibility. You can blame the LANDLORD (your words… oh, WAIT, does that mean you DON’T OWN THE PLACE???? HMMM, another contradiction, you should really get your story straight and not let your anger rule your fingers typing) all you want. It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. END OF STORY.
5) This POST was written in the last few days. The BLOG has been in existence for at least a year. THAT is my point. Fuck. That the blog wasn’t started this week, so how could I be Frank?
6) I absolutely stole the photos from someone on Facebook. Someone sent me a link to the photos. I also stole a bit of info from the comments on those photos… such as the fact that you LIED about not being the owner. So there….. You don’t know me. I’ve never been to your place. And I don’t personally give a SHIT if you think I have. That’s your problem. But I’d suggest you not bother other people, because ANYONE can see those photos… would you like a link?
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https://notabreed.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/cheryl-foster-or-churney-whatever-has-been-begging-for-money-forever/#comment-585 SURE HAS NOT BEEN A YEAR
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You truly are stupid, aren’t you?
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WOW. That’s a whole new level of stupid! No wonder she’s found herself in a whole world of hurt!
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WHOM IS THE BULLSHITTER HERE A YEAR SURE ASS HOLE
2011 07 29
I see you cannot tell the truth
slander me all you want it leaves someone else alone
keep on hiding
all liers hide
not true keep on going
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Cheryl, it’s “who” fucktard. You’re giving “whom” a workout, needlessly.
I like combs up the ass, thank you! I especially enjoy removing them slowly. When each tooth reaches the outside, it makes such a lovely song. I think I’ve recorded a few – you know, for a greatest hits compilation.
You’re losing your shit, Cheryl. The angry typing – the “screaming”. You’re a pathetic twatwaffle who got caught doing horrible things to your horses. You’ll pay for these crimes in more ways than one… monetarily and karma. Good luck.
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now you also get me the other 19 picutres of the horses goat shit
big mouth get off your fat ass to
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we have your address and i no whom you are it will never sell
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If you have my address… POST IT. Go ahead. I fucking DARE YOU. Why? Because I know you don’t have it. You’re on crack lady.
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Cheryl, in your FIRST comment you say:
“sorry guys more bull shit i wonder whom did this add
maybe the same whom wants the money”
You are intimating that the blog is written by the owner of the farm who seized your horses for MONEY… you know, the 30k you owe him? Frank is the one who wants the money. So you’re saying Frank is the one who wrote the blog.
I said:
“What did you think? Frank started this blog a year ago just waiting for the moment he could write a bunch of bullshit about you?”
How do you not see this?
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OH OH OH I know. I know. Pick me to answer the question, NAB!
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OMG I just fucking laughed my ASS off.
I can totally see you, squirming up and down in your desk chair, arm raised as straight as possible, flapping your hand up and down, saying “oh oh oh pick me pick ME”
Fucking HILARIOUS.
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a auction to sell this shit hole just to get people there sure
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OH, I see now.
So, Frank seized your horses under the Innkeepers Act for nonpayment (or is that fraudulent too?), then starved your horses (but just the stallions and the oldest mare there – your favorite I’m assuming since you’ve had her the longest) so that he could create a stir online to drum up potential real estate purchasers because his farm is for sale.
I get it now.
Lady, seriously, you are on crack.
And I’m still waiting for my address to be posted. Go ahead. I give you COMPLETE permission.
But if you’re wrong, and you post someone ELSE’s address, then I have an issue. Because I know who you THINK I am, and I am not her.
Go on Facebook and look up NotABreed. I’m not her Cher. Just because someone posts a photo on Facebook, and someone else uses it on a blog… doesn’t mean I’m that volunteer who is there feeding YOUR horses because YOU didn’t.
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Cheryl must have gotten a headache from all the big words, NAB. I’m sorry. It always gets ’em.
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Probably. Too bad.
I love picking apart the excuses and “reasons” they throw out.
So fucking predictable.
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now boys get the other 19 horses shown i have pictures where are yours 3.5 plus if you no what the hell that means
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Cheryl, NO ONE understands you. Speak English please.
I seriously have NO IDEA what the hell you’re saying.
If you’re asking if I understand the Henneke Body Conditioning Scale, I do. And 3.5 is underweight, if YOU don’t know that.
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Ever notice that breeders or “hoarders” like her always always take it off themselves when others feel the need to point out her accountability in all this?? Sad she had all these prized horses and just let them go to waste. Now it’s up to everyone else to clean up her mess. I am hoping all her horses go to good homes and get the chance to know what real care is like. and I hope to GOD that Cheryl does not EVER get the chance to have any horses again, because they too will be in the same boat as these ones were. People like her never change, not when she has this all about me attitude and just looks at animals or horses in this instance as commodities. May it be a lesson to all here: don’t ever take a horse or any animal for granted or the kindness of others, because it will come back and bite you in the ass!!!!!
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Yes Kim. I do notice. They all have the same excuses, and it’s NEVER their fault. Ever.
The reason I write this blog, is so hopefully if she ever tries to buy another horse, the owner will Google her name, and see this.
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god I hope so, I have read this entire blog, comments, reply’s, everything. Love the comb comment and goats responses are classic. It just goes to show you that stupid people are everywhere and breeding like friggen jackrabbits. I hope to god that anyone ever selling a horse to her checks her out first, and just so you know did a little checking myself and this is what I found on facebook.
Moved to Meaford ON to start a new equestrain centre.
We are horse lovers and build res. and custom homes.
At this time we have 30 horses total We sell all over the world.
Just waiting for new finacing to continue for a 15 mil equine centre. Scary but fun.
I found this on her wall, thought she only had 22 horses what the hell, seriously. Oh what a tangled web we weave when a first we practice to deceive.
Kind of like her hair the more she lies the messier it gets
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i swimming pool for a barn good thing someone diverted the snow this winter not the landlo
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What??
ARE you on crack? Drunk??? Seriously, what the hell are you saying?
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get your fat ass over and look shut your big mouth that knows nothing and go and see you start shooting your mouth off and you do not even no what else is in the barn you tell lies you did not even no how many horses you are bull shit and whom did you get the picutres from i no the day they were taken and by whom all mouth see you later and sooner than later
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Since you don’t know me, I’m not sure how you think I have a fat ass. That’s a little insulting.
And just an FYI, if I don’t understand you, it’s not because I don’t have knowledge of what is going on, it’s because you write like you are ESL on crack.
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also all the other tenents please contact me I have a few of your names whom i have talked to but not all please and thx
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Cheryl, take “WHOM” out of your vocabulary. If you’re trying to make yourself look the least bit educated, you’re failing. The “whom’s” are just the icing in the cake.
Why don’t you admit it, you got caught and you got owned. You’re nothing but a callous wanna-be who couldn’t raise a flea, let alone a bunch of horses.
Suck it up. Pay for your crime. Apologize for your actions. Make restitution. (I heard prostitution pays pretty well) And while you’re at it, apologize for bastardizing the English language.
(I’m about to break your rule, NAB – fine me or something….)
Cheryl, you’re a pathetic excuse for a human being. Someday you’ll realize this and ask for forgiveness…only when you’re left alone all dried up. And by the look of it, you’re pert’near there! (use sunscreen, shave your head, and pick a less-crazy color to accentuate your lips – not only did you starve those horses, you scared the fuck out of them, as well)
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Ok TG, this is your one warning.
;)
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By the time Cheryl heads home, I’ll be banned. It’s okay, it’ll be worth it. I know the owner of this blog, I can sweet talk my way out of it after a sufficient amount of time.
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Thanks for doing this blog NAB- Cheryl keeps digging a bigger hole for herself. She is showing her true colors and lack of intelligence by saying what she has thus far. Maybe she should stop playing the blame game and take a look in the mirror. She **cked up. Plain and simple..why???? because she got greedy and actually believed people would pay high prices for starved horses…seems like a hoarder hiding behind calling herself a breeder. Shame on her.
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as this is the innkeepers act sure threats horse thiefs
June rent invoice attached and is due today.
Problem was the inn keeper was never there was no innkeeper
Also GST that was charged of 850.00 per month that it was private not a business x 7
just happened to get a invoice in MAY FOR GST TO TRY AND GET BACK
boarders or accomadtion they do not do all the work and fix frozen water lines plow the driveway
Never mind fill for the driveway fixing of the arena watering the floor etc etc never ending
Where the hell was the inn keeper
Never mind the flooding of the barn
From Frank below
It is unfortunate that i always seem to get the run around from all of you,so i have to now make myself clear
Please don’t delay in paying your rent,i am not the bank and i will inforce the inn keepers act.
Unless your prepared to co-operate with me and my requests by removing the manure up the the track,cut grass around barn and arena and driveway,maintain your portion of the facility.
Consider this your final notice,
You have 30 days to move out
Frank Psaila
903953 Ontario Ltd
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Your first line makes no sense whatsoever… again.
As for the rest of your note, please know this… as everyone’s mother used to say “two wrongs don’t make a right”.
What EVER is going on, you MUST pay your rent. If the landlord is not fulfilling his duties, then you can file a complaint. Did you approach him and tell him you would have things fixed if you could subtract the costs from the rent? I doubt it…
The bottom line is failure to pay rent means eviction. Since you failed to pay the rent, I think you were LUCKY to have 30 days notice! Some places allow a ONE WEEK notice.
What most people – who are unfortunate enough to have to rent from others – do is they PAY the rent and spend the time looking for a new place to move to. One where the “innkeeper” does a better job than Frank apparently does. It also sounds like you weren’t really doing work YOU agreed to do either.
Again, two wrongs don’t make a right.
And YOU were responsible for the health of your horses. Again, BOTTOM LINE. There is NO ONE else responsible for the way those stallions look. You and only you. Can you not see that?
I don’t really give a shit if Frank didn’t do what he was supposed to do. I care that those horses quite obviously did NOT get fed. And that is on you Cher. You and you alone.
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out of 22 horses one old mare whom age 31 has had cancer for 15 years and foaled 2 great foals since is doing fine vet checked no issues can even travel to one stallion whom had a infection do to flooding and Josh the bay stud whom is a stud 5 studs in a barn with 14 brrodmares in heat all together I can tell you no nothing about horses
They were worked everyday in the arena as the fencing would not hold one stud period.
You are someone whom sits on his ass and tries to pull up dirty laundry and cannot even get it correct Far from correct.
Go back to kindergarden you may be able to spell but hey baby as far as that goes you no shit
So like i said show me the other 19 horses lets see pictures big boy
Rent due was 7150.00 for June to July 4th from july the 4th to Aug 4th 7,400.00 so the bill is 40,000 now
My turn for dirtly laundry This landlord started buying hay the 15th of July on lock up then he had Bill to keep working for nothing (he did) and he did to make sure the horses were fine that ended friday so the landlord paid for 4 loads of hay 220 bales to date till auction
No use paying for feed on a illegal seizure would you think It is a illegal seiizure and other tenants can verify how this man works We are from from the first but hey this was not a 50 dollar horse he lets them go no oney in that and cannot keep raping
this blog is far from a year old 7th month 11 day this was started so get over the year baby
Oh and by the way I use a horse comb for my hair
Slander is a legal proceeding and as we see your information is far from correct and you have not done your home work by far
Get those other 19 horses pictures like I said get off your ass and you are far from a vet you have to go to school for that so break your fingers or stitch your mouth till you have the correct facts
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also thx to ellie and pat for the picutres of Frasha the old grey Jerry chestnut stud and Josh the bay he had a buyer
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Wow, you bred your senior mare who has cancer? Nice. You’re really showing what type of person you are with that statement.
Of COURSE, the infection and resulting emaciation of Josh is not your fault. You had nothing to do with anything. I’m so sorry. You’re right, since the flooding was the property owners fault, even though you admitted he stood in water for TWO MONTHS in his stall… you had NOTHING to do with that. Nope. You’re Ms. Innocent.
As for going back to kindergarten, I think you would benefit from that so much more than I would. I want to point out a couple of things for you… a little spelling lesson if I may…
“Know” means you have knowledge in your head.
“No” means the opposite of yes.
Here is a little lesson on “who” versus “whom”: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/choosing-to-use-who-and-whom.html
Regarding your issues of how “incorrect” I seem to be… so far the only thing you’ve pointed out that I was “wrong” on was the fact that there are 22 horses instead of 23. What else was I wrong about? Go through my post and point out what exactly I was WRONG about. I’d love to see this.
Again, the REASONS behind why the stallions and Frasha are so skinny are irrelevant (meaning they don’t MATTER). The facts are the facts.
And just because your bill is now 40k instead of 30k (not something to be proud of by the way) is also irrelevant, since the bill will continue to increase until you are gone from the property. Duh.
And are you saying that thanks to the photos, the “buyer” backed out? What do you think would have happened when the buyer SAW the horse? Wow, you really must be on some good drugs, to think they wouldn’t have backed out of the sale the second they saw the horse in person. And if they paid and shipped, they’d have cancelled the cheque in a heartbeat. You, my friend, are living in a fantasy world.
And by the way, you might want to look up libel law: https://notabreed.wordpress.com/libel-law/
Nothing I’ve written is not a statement of fact. Everything I wrote, I backed up with photographic proof. The ads are copies of ads YOU placed. The rest of the information about YOU, I gleamed from old cashed copies of YOUR website… the same place I got the photos of the horses… don’t you recognize your own photos? What exactly did I make up? What did I lie about?
Sweetie, honey, whatever we’re calling each other now, there ARE no lies, so therefore there IS no libel.
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keep going still have no 19 pics of the 22 in that barn you are a joke go flood in your barn
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Well, you know who took the photos, so I’m sure you know how to find them. :)
I LOVE how you demand I produce photos, but yet you don’t answer a single question. Where did I lie Cheryl?
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good by ass hole will see you soon
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Don’t leave mad, Cheryl. I was just starting to like you. There’s something about a bat-shit-crazy chick with leather skin, clown lipstick and wild hair that gets me all excited.
Answer John’s questions, Cheryl. In English. Online tard-to-English translators are down right now, and they won’t be up for quite some time due to the influx of people like you trying to communicate with something more than a few grunts and a lot of finger pointing.
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“Online tard-to-English translators…”
Best. Line. EVER.
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you can tell you no nothing about horses what so ever
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I’m sure everyone who reads my blog can tell I “KNOW” nothing about horses. Not. One. Single. Thing.
That’s quite obvious.
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I’ve got to know one thing, Cheryl…your cheeks…are they so puffy due to the collection of horse semen?
I KNOW, NAB. I know. The answer is yes. I know better than asking obvious questions. It won’t happen again.
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One question: how do we stop receiving emails from these posts?
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Kim, if you’re a member of WordPress, click on “my subscriptions” and unsubscribe from the comments. I’ll see what I can do from this end. Sorry if you’re feeling spammed.
John
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ok in defence of the old mare Frasha and her condition-I took the photos,I have spoken at length to the vet involved -he assured me that Frasha is not in pain due to cancerous melanomas and does not need to be put down ,she is under weight -partially due to her age and also to her teeth as is common in elderly horses,teeth become very worn and require more regular dental care-which the vet determined could wait up to 90 days–I do not agree however,this is what he said to me.He ordered one of the studs have teeth done immediatley-which has been done.Frasha needs several small feeding per day of a wet feed specifically formulated for senior horses-and designed to replace the hay , which she has trouble eating due to dental condition and age.I sought and obtained written permission from Cher and the OSPCA to remove Frasha to my farm last week,however,this was stopped ,apparently by “investors” Sad— yes , the horses have been neglected however, there is more people to blame for this –others need to take some responsibilty as well.This is about the welfare of these horses and there is no need to make rude remarks about personal appearance,spelling etc.this solves nothing-can we all just do the best we can to protect the horses from ever finding themselves in a similar situation again
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I think I’m not in agreement with the vet either. If the horse is underweight, it is a symptom. Either of the cancer, or the teeth, or something.
It may, however, be a symptom of not being fed properly for her condition – that condition being senior with poor teeth. Senior horses need more care and attention than younger horses, especially when it comes to what and how much you are feeding. I realize you probably know this, but apparently Cheryl doesn’t. Ignorance is no excuse.
As for you being stopped by others from removing the horse – which is pathetic if you ask me – that should be addressed.
I can’t imagine why an “investor” would balk at removing one of 22 (or however many there are) horses, when that particular horse is 30+ years old… since the horse is not worth anything monetarily. That is utterly ridiculous. Pathetic. I’d love to know these “investors” names…
As for rude remarks about appearance, spelling, etc… well, half of what Cheryl writes you can’t even understand! If you’re going to go online and try to “defend” yourself, you should at least be coherent. Don’t you think?
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BTW Pat, I suspect Cheryl thinks you are me. Or I am you. Or whatever. You know what I mean.
Also, do you know more about the stallion? That poor guy is pretty skinny. How can these stallions be so neglected? Am I right about the situation there? The stallions are kept in the barn and the mares are on pasture?
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From what I personally saw on two occasion, yes , some of stallions are kept inside as well as a few of the mares,in part I do think because the fences are not adequate to ensure their safety.I know one of the studs needed dental care,which one ,I am not positive.I was told that the indoor horses where turned out a few minutes each day into the arena-I personally watched this done with a couple of them on two separate visits,I cannot , however,say for sure if this happened every day.Yes,Frasha requires special senior care,which is what I can offer for her,I do not know who the investors are,only that I was told they refused to allow her to be removed prior to the sale on Thursday.
I disagree with the vet assessment -however, I am not a vet so can only hear his recommendations.He did say that of the two needing dental work,the stud was more urgent.I believe there is plenty of blame to go around and I am not in defence of any of the parties involved ,I became involved after inadvertently being told about Frasha,the rest I discovered when I went to see about her .While I agree ,some posts have been rambling and difficult to read,I still believe it serves no purpose to make an issue of that when the real issue is and has been for some time , the condition and welfare of the horses.I am hoping Thursday will bring an end to the poor care and find them in better conditions going forward.I am still hopeful that Frasha will be allowed to come home with me where I can provide what she requires for as long as she has the will to continue.I would then be under OSPCA notice as well until her teeth have been dealt with .My reason for taking and posting the photos was with the intent to create concern and also interest in this group of horses and to hopefully find buyers for them .This is still my only hope.
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I think this was notice and not a dialogue by the poster. I only responded because I have seen the horses and thought if someone was interested then it might be worth following through when the auctioneer sets a date in due course and I am sure then all the pertinent available details will be made public to get the highest price possible for everyone involved. I may be wrong in that assumption… I just know that they look healthy and cared for so at least it isn’t a uphill battle if the papers are available, etc. for someone who may be interested it doesn’t appear to be a rescue situation, but unfortunate circumstances not being able to pay the board and now the “innkeeper” has to remedy the situation.
http://www.equiman.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=403610
Now we have vets whom are not vets
I have known this lady since she was 9 years old She looked after many horses for people who could not, her money not theirs. Cheryl even had two studs for board 5 years she looked after them with no payment when the woman died she got them good homes. Horses she cared about not money. If anyone even had any idea what this lady has done in her lifetime for horses. No one even knows what is going on just big mouths and no it alls. Truth is not part of your vocabulary. I was able to work with her for years and I no that her horses had and always will have much more than she ever will have. You people are disgusting and should get your correct information before you hit the keyboard
For her spelling if you cannot understand her why would you even reply please insult someone else. Grow up people.
People should no reasons before they start spouting off at the mouth two horses Cheryl not three and yes where are the other picturses of the dieing horses.
You people have shown two with the health issues which Cheryl did say reason, one bay stud he looks good for a stud in a barn with mares now people where are the other 19 that are abused and dieing.
You people are sick
I would suggest you go find horses whom are starving and not had a person like Cheryl
Dino
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Well, isn’t this interesting. You know, the first thing that tweaked my curiosity was the fact that “Dino” uses “no” instead of “know”. Something Cheryl does too. Then I reread the comment. I noticed other things that ‘reminded’ me of Cheryl’s writing. Then, as I was writing this comment, I noticed a second comment come in seconds after the first. Another “Cheryl thing to do”.
What some people may not know is that when you comment here, your IP address is registered (only I can see it). Even if you use a different email to create a new account, that doesn’t change your IP address. Sorry Cheryl. That doesn’t quite work… what you’re trying to do. You see, you’re still using the same computer. IP addresses don’t lie.
Since you seem to want to quote what others are saying about you on boards, I will do the same:
“I dont know this woman personally but i had been following Fireside Arabians for about 8 years now. I do remember when they were up in Kenora and mentioned on their website their horses were outside 24/7 in -36C weather. Well then they move down to my area (Meaford is only 30 minutes away) so i shoot them a friendly email saying welcome to the area and we should get together. Never heard a response so i left it at that and just kept watching the website. Well total non arab people and other horse folks had gone there and then come to my tack shop asking if i knew them. I said i didnt personally but had heard of them. It turns out the horses were LOCKED in stalls 24/7 now…horses that were used to being outside are now confined. The stalls reeked and their one beautiful barn was chewed like beaver had been at it. The horses were in good shape by what i heard. This was probably 3-4 years ago? Then i didnt hear much. Next thing i know i heard she lost the place. I had no idea where this Cheryl woman went or where the horses were up until a few days ago when i saw the listing for the horses going to auction. I cannot say iam surprised. This is happening all to often. WHY are people so ashamed and cannot just FESS UP and be a responsible horse owner and ask for help BEFORE it gets to this. Sell the horses for low prices or give them away. The horse market here in Canada is not THAT bad (not as bad as in the states). Sure horses are not selling for $10K but isnt a few thousand better than none? I have no use for people like this…”
I never said ALL the horses were as emaciated as the three pictured (there are three, not two as you like to try to point out). And the person who posted the photos noted in the comments that the rest of the horses are a 3.5 on the Henneke Body Conditioning Scale. As all of us knowledgeable folks in the horse industry know, 5 is an appropriate score. I would even go so far as to say 4.5 for a working horse, or one that’s, say, a stallion and all the mares are in heat.
So, that is a direct witness who has seen your horses recently stating the horses are a 3.5. What do you say to that Dino/Cheryl?
Wow. I can’t even write one comment before there are three now from you?
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And yeah, you missed that “whom” in the last line Cheryl.
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And the first line.
;)
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Oh I noticed a few spelling errors sorry for my bad grammar Cheryl would like that one
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One more thing as I read thru this maze of your bullshit. Sorry bud her lips out beat yours anyday and sorry you are bald. A beautiful head of hair she does have. Jealous I would think is your big issue. Get a life
DINO
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I will apologize for letting the insults get out of hand. That commenter has been told not to do that so aggressively, although they do have their own opinions. I have a rule, no direct attacks, and I didn’t necessarily enforce that rule to it’s fullest extent. I did give them a warning, but then I didn’t follow through with a short ban like I should have. For that I apologize. I also laughed at some of the jokes (I wasn’t laughing directly at you, but at the cracks the person made, which is still wrong on my part). So, that insulting part is over. You of course are insulting as well, and that has to stop too. Fair warning to all parties.
You can try to throw the attention elsewhere all you want. The bottom line is you were not caring for your horses properly. Please do the right thing here Cheryl.
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What? No quick response?
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Hmmm. No response from Dino OR Cheryl.
I wonder why…
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Ok I am not one for leaving or even one to even bother with reading comments after an article but seriously??? I couldn’t help myself!!
First thing goes out to Cheryl
WHEN YOU LEASE A BARN YOU LEASE IT!!! IT’S YOURS TO TAKE CARE OF!! The landlord is that and only that. You pay him to use their property and to keep it in good working order. THE WAY YOU RECEIVED IT!
You can bitch all you want and try to lay blame everywhere else when in fact these horses WERE yours. The fact that you didn’t pay your bills and feed your horse’s properly is no one’s fault but your own so you seriously need to own that. But is see your financial state is still good enough that you have a computer and access to the internet (which by the way equals to about 3 bags of feed) PRIORITIES!!!
As for flooding in the barn easily fixed -rent or hire a mini excavator and boom your problem is fixed in a day WOW so hard. If your worried about the money?? guess what…. it comes with running a farm.
You seriously have no defence so if you had some functioning brain left you would get off every site that has said something about you and quit trying to say people are spreading lies. This actually makes you look 10 times worse. Cut your loses, pack your shit up and leave the province. Trust me if you do ever get your hands on another horse your name has spread like wildfire throughout the horse community in a matter of days and everyone will know this story and you throughout the province. You won’t have a chance in getting to board or lease anywhere. My advice and it’s smart…. take it.
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Welcome Shanny.
Might I say that the comments often prove the most interesting. Especially when friends, family and even the perpetrators come on to “defend” themselves. You also often get neighbours and others with inside knowledge of a situation commenting.
I always enjoy the comments. :)
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I agree comments usually prove quit a bit about a person. I myself do know Frank and I also know what the farm looked like prior to Cheryl leasing. I have a friend and her son volunteering there helping out with the horses who are now finally getting the care they’ve always deserved. I will personally see tomorrow morning the shape the horses are in and I WILL be taking my camera along So don’t fret Cheryl I will get photos of the poor state ALL of your former horses are in. And my I remind you that seeing a protruding rib cage is not healthy for any horse. Even Stallions should have a bit on weight on them and FYI their feeds should be up months prior to the breeding season. If you don’t know what you are doing seek help!!
As for the situation I do understand the controversy with Franks situation and please know I’m neutral to this situation regardless to who I know, but now we need to focus on where do we draw the line as a business to recoup our money? That is the predicament I see Frank being in now. How long do you wait to get the money owed? How as a landlord do you sit by and witness what your renters are doing? Everyone knows that there is little to no money in horses these days, and the amount I understand that I owed is a lot to just let go in this economy
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Please excuse the couple spots of bad grammar ;) haha
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Everyone has grammar and spelling mistakes now and again. It’s not a big deal, and it would be silly for anyone to point them out.
But when you write like Cheryl, it’s hard not to point it out. ;)
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I purchased a mare at the sale and she is in perfect condition. Not sure what happened in the past but this mare is perfect.
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Awesome! I’m glad you got a good horse out of this fiasco.
Your thoughts on the auction, etc. are welcome here. Also feel free to link to photos of your new gal!
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All I can say is this woman is a pathetic liar that cannot spell for shit, anyone with a brain can tell when someone is trash, did english not hit you or what, and seriously blaming everything on everythin else is just as stupid as your spelling. I have done alot of stupid things in my life, (starving or abusing an animal is not one), but I will whole heartedly take the blame for all my stupidity and I will spell it right. Jeez get a friggen dictionary or use the spell correct if you are that stupid.
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I apologize for any insults or content that I typed that portrayed my feelings towards this bolg. I mean no ill intent, it was so hard to read all of this and see her bitching you out for your supposedly untrue blog, and the spelling errors killed me. I know that you do not have to spell correctly to have a good heart, but I have found in my life with all the people I have met that with knowledge comes well being. Wether it is animal care, or personal care, 9 times out 10, if you cannot spell or get your story straight then something is being lied about or not being told. It is in itself a story that cannot be remembered and therefore not told properly over and over again. I know gilrs in highschool that act this way and sometimes mentally they never leave….
Again I apologize for any comments or text that seemed insensitive or derogatory
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sorry I misspelled girls in the second to last line, my bad
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LOL. NO biggie. We all make the occasional mistake!
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I apologize to all for my tardiness in approving comments. I’ve not been online for a little while.
BUT, that’s all about to change!!! ;)
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Interesting, I believe I visited this woman’s farm in Kenora when she lived here, the horses were stalled most of the time and when they were taken out into the arena they were nuts, they ran around with absolutely no control, I left scared for my life. Maybe the fences weren’t the problem just out of control horses. I believe the house here went into foreclosure, its up for sale again. Well Cheryl what comes around goes around, my god karma is a bitch eh? Hope the horses are fine now. Let us know in Kenora what happened in the end, just I case she cares to return here, that way we have the story straight. Pretty sure she’d lie. Thanks for the blog, very interesting.
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